Janesville Road Lights are On, But Why are They So Close?
Close spacing of lights has drawn criticism from readers, so we asked, "what's up with that?"
For the most part the Janesville Road construction project has drawn relatively few complaints, at least if you gauge it from reader comments. However it's been what's over the street that has garnered most of the negative attention: the lights.
Most of you commented on the spacing, which is tighter than most light poles seen along highways, freeways or even Moorland Road.
In part, it's a downtown thing, according to Mayor Kathy Chiaverotti.
"The way we've been explaining it is that the poles over Moorland are also much higher, and therefore the light shed covers more of an area. However, the street scape plan is more suited for a downtown environment, where light poles are shorter, and therefore you need more of them to cast enough light onto the street," she said.
The physics of the lights also probably make neighbors on either side of Janesville, which features private homes that line the street on certain stretches, happier. A higher, broader light standard would wash their yards in the glow of streetlights, something that would likely draw complaints.
The road project is winding down and WE Energies has completed much of the wiring, so the lights are indeed now on and illuminating Janesville Road as of late Monday. Additional sidewalk lights are also in the process of being installed and wired, with the final work being done this week.
Bryan K.
3:51 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
That lightbulb's out in the first light in your picture! Haha.
warren voeks
3:51 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
i feel the construction of janesville rd, is very well done and the eye appeal my help draw new business to muskego. w. voeks muskego
Denise Konkol
3:54 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
It is, Bryan - and there's another one out further east. Good thing I don't have to shimmy up the pole to fix it.
Betsy
4:00 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
I wish the new light poles matched the existing ones further east on Janesville Rd and the other new ones on Pioneer. So far the looks are not connected...
Bryan K.
4:08 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
They are all different because they are all different "districts." The Tess Corners area on Janesville and Pioneer Drive are Muskego's historical districts, so they got the historical lighting. Moorland Road is the commerce corridor, so they got that light design, and the new Janesville Road got the "lake district/new downtown" lighting scheme.
Pam e
6:44 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
I love the new look of Janesville road and pioneer drive. Remember decorating one o one, we don't need to do matchy matchy. It looks great. Some people are just gong to complain to complain. Can't please everyone. :(
robert l prah
7:47 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
bob in oak grove. i do hope that the lights are leds. saves money in the long run.
Muskego Mike
9:45 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
I like all three major road projects in Muskego. Janesville road, Pioneer drive, and Tess Corners Drive Reconstruction all look great. Love the bike path on woods road too. It all looks great and the city looks much better. Too bad it took so long for the Janesville road project to happen.
Warriors Mom
12:42 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
Hate the new lights, they are ugly & industrial looking. Not looking forward to the taxes increasing for the millions of lights which half are unneeded.
Kammy
7:49 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
I, too, would have preferred streetlights in all the "districts" matched. My objection is the number of strret signs along Janesville. Count them! They are also repetitive from right to the median. I believe most drivers look to the right, not median for signage. A few of the signs are temporary, but, most are not. This over abundance of signs junks up the new Janesville.
Also, I question why sod was used along Janesville. Sod needs to be maintained! While it looks great now, I question how it will look in a year or two when it is not fertilized, weeded, cut often enough and has been piled with road salt in winter.
Denise Konkol
9:05 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
Sod as opposed to no grass at all?
Rumour
9:14 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
Why when the city leaders want all things on Janesville road to look unform like signage colors etc, every street light is different? The east corridor seems to be the forgotten dark area of the city. There was not enough funding for additional lights in this corridor. Most people do not even realize that the Tess Corners area is a historic part of the city. With that said there should be some type of flow on the highway. What lights will there be from Lannon to Racine Ave.???????
Denise Konkol
9:32 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
Same lights Lannon to Racine, which is phase II. Tess Corners IS also being considered, but will need to wait to see what $$ are left (they are doing well budget-wise). So basically, from College to Racine the street lights could look the same, however the city is also recognizing some of its more historic areas, as people have noted on Pioneer. Every light is not different.
Denise Konkol
9:52 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
Wanted to add a piece of information on the sod complaints. If you're thinking seeding would be better, it takes 18 months for that type of planting to truly take root, unless salt from plowing kills it, and hardscape everywhere is not exactly a great idea. In addition, I am curious to know who made these concerns known when they were seeking public input on this project years ago. I recall the actual fixtures in the library for weeks when they were asking for public input, as well as in the vestibule of City Hall not too long ago.
Bryan K.
10:07 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
The lights aren't supposed to give an "industrial feel" as Warrior Mom stated. They are part of the "Contemporary Lake Community" that the public input groups determined would be the best for the road. Other things that will be added can be seen here: http://www.ci.muskego.wi.us/Portals/11/docs/IdentityElementBoard.pdf
Personally, I feel that when the original Janesville Road project (College to Moorland) was complete, they dropped the ball with the Tess Corners Historic District. There is too few lights along Janesville, and they didn't install any from Moorland to Bushy's and again from Poe's Place to College Ave. The new Janesville will be 100x better than that segment of the road, because they want to make it feel like a downtown. I'm glad they didn't take the easy way out like some of the commenters seem to be suggesting, and reconstruct Janesville like New Berlin's National Avenue, where all there is is paved paradise and no street lights. The lights may be close, but they aren't that close that we should be complaining about it. They're not going to change it. We should just accept it and appreciate that this new road is better than the 2-lane road that was falling apart that was there earlier this year.
And, the city posted on their Facebook page that they will be hiring a landscape group to maintain the medians along Janesville Road and Moorland Road so they don't look overgrown, especially since flowers will be planted in Janesville's medians.
Muskego citizen
10:22 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
It looks beautiful! You will always get some complainers no matter what you do.
braasch0074
10:46 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
The lights would look nicer if they were a bronze or brown color. Being an old hot-rodder it looks like they were painted with grey primer.
Matt
11:33 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
do we have any pricing information on how much each light pole cost us? I did a project for college, and to get light poles that are hybrid solar and wind power are not unreasonable. I would have liked to see us look into more alternative energy fueled lights vs the average lights that we got.
If Muskego is gearing toward attracting young families, I think taking a more renewable and clear approach to things is a good idea.
For example I love the city compost. Wish we could expand it somehow and make distribution wider and maybe get some community gardens. (example Nabco Industries in the industrial park has company garden plots to promote healthy eating and for those employees who live in apartments.)
James J
11:47 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012
As a person who lives near the new lights I get to see them every night out of my house. Right now I'm still taking it in and giving it a chance, but to me the lights should be something that I don't even notice (eg the lights on Mooreland, I drive that every day, but can't describe what they look like--other than they get nice flags on them every so often).
* The new lights are a much whiter color--kind of obnoxious on the eyes.
* They have a lot of light spill on the sides (look at the picture and you can see the light from the side of the lights 2 blocks away)
* The lights also seem to cast a real bright spot on the grass right under the light and little on the roadway, not to mention the design of the shade causes a dark shadow strip in the roadway.
I'm giving it a chance, maybe it will grow on me.
Kammy
1:16 pm on Thursday, December 6, 2012
in response to Denise-
Not hardscape--seed. While grass may take longer to establish itself, there are several areas along Janesville where grass has been planted. If oity really hired a landscaper to maintain the sod, fine. Otherwise, it will begin to look like Moorland in no time at all. Right now, it does look beautiful.