TGFSW

For all the libs:

TSFSW
thank science for scott walker

Wear boots so you don't step in all the bullshit.

Cynthia, Is this what a political orgasm looks like. You must have one of those Scott Walker dildos.

JL. Obviously, you do not agree with the method with which the Walker Administration eliminated the State's huge budget deficit. How would you have liked to have seen the problem solved?

yeah you have been so nice. well we have no worries beacuse we are not in the Republic of madison,we are in the real world TGFSW and stop whining, its not becoming

God forbid a politician keep his promises like eliminating the state budget shortfall.

Losers trying to make other losers feel good about themselves.

YES

@The Hoffa, I agree. It's funny how they vehemently uphold the right to free speech, yet do all they can to take those rights away from others. Good Grief! I wonder what they are so afraid of? There is no need for them to be anywhere near this gathering. Hmmm.... Maybe they're afraid the weak minded among them may hear too much of the truth and be pulled to the other side :)

Hoffa remember everyone gets one cup of spew.

Maybe if your side could be relied upon to act as something other than uncaged savages every time the right wants to get together somewhere, they wouldn't have to put up barricades. Learn to act like civilized human beings and perhaps you'll be treated as such.

And you truly think that opponents of Walker's policies would keep quiet and play nice at this event? If he is so wrong, why not let him hang himself — politically speaking — with his own words? But this cannot happen if he and his supporters are not given the chance to speak and be heard. Shouting "Shame! Shame! Shame!" contributes zero toward facing our State's very real problems.

@Bren -

First off, this event was not planned by Walker, but rather his supporters, in a true grass roots fashion. Unlike your side's claimed 'grass roots' actions that almost always feature millions of public sector union dollars and coordination.

Second, they secured the permits to use the public space for a private event, just as anyone else can, so what exactly is so wrong with this?

Third, as you must not have checked the itinerary included in the article, Walker is not even scheduled to attend, yet alone speak, so what would the "welcome he received from Occupy Chicago" have to do with anything?

Fourth, according to you it's apparently OK for your side to complain about out-of-state cash coming into Walker's coffers, but not OK for Walker's side to complain about out-of-state cash coming into the recall coffers. How is this not hypocrisy to the extreme? And yet, you still claim to be an independent - please, you are nothing but a joke!

And finally, please explain to us why people of your ilk would want to attend this event except to try and disrupt it. Why can't these people celebrate their support of Walker and his reforms without constant attempted and actual interference from your side? As an 'independent,' you must realize that they have this right, but for some reason you only ever choose to acknowledge the rights of the anti-Walker recall crowd.

Quit fooling yourself and trying to fool us Bren - you are NOT an independent!

Well, you know, James it is kind of an irresistible event for them. Look at the list of the names of the attendees. You can almost envision the steam pouring out of some lefty's ears as they hiss out one name after another. It's like everyone they hate (sans the big target) all at one place.

Frankly, now that I think about it, I'm not sure barricades are going to be enough. If one or more of them lost their minds in the frenzy and went off tonight, I wouldn't be all that surprised.

Bob, you have no basis for calling "my side" (which as a placeholder name we'll call "justice") any names-the Capitol police thanked the protesters for their civility several times. My experiences at Patch indicate that the majority of blustering and name calling comes from "your side" (which as a placeholder we'll call "confused") -- for example, reference your own comment and young Mr. Hoffa's lower in this thread.

Markman, democracy is all about letting everyone's voice be heard. Sometimes there are disagreements (welcome to Patch). Isolation isn't going to make the disagreements go away, is it. That they feel they must barricade themselves in at all is telling. And all I can say about "Shame" is, why are people shouting "Shame?" The chastisement itself may not address our state's problems, but the recall is.

Young Mr. Hoffa, yes, I should have said, "Walker's supporters." Because again, the last thing they'll want is to be surrounded and outshouted by recall supporters. I'm not saying it's wrong to be in a park, but I have an issue with trying to keep people out when public officials are on the agenda.

Concerning out-of-state funds, the real issue is the impact of Citizens United. If you saw the most recent Republican debate this issue was discussed. It's becoming clear to all that the free, unregulated flow of dollars into politics is a dangerous road. And it's hypocritical to complain about opponents' out-of-state $ when your campaign gets it too.

What names did Bob call "your side"?

Well, Bren, if you don't like "uncaged savages", perhaps you'd more readily accept "bitter", "self-centered", "entitled", "spoiled"...actually the list could go on and on for your side, Bren. But "Democrats" works just fine. it implies all the rest.

You're in denial, Bren. You're a Democrat. Say it with me, and say it proudly....

"I, Bren, am a Democrat".

There...did you feel that? That's the burden of denial lifting. Embrace it Bren. Like James says, the only person you're fooling at this point is yourself.

Cow, see above.

Bob, I'm an independent who supports the recall of Scott Walker and proud of it. We're the ones to watch in this election and November 2012. And the more insults I hear from folks like you the more convinced I am that Scott Walker is the candidate of bullies and sour grapes.

Bren, an independent once in awhile concedes that the other side can at least make like a blind squirrel. I'm more of an independent than you are in that regard.

You're a Democrat. You spout the party line, you spit the talking points, you're consistent and predictable and you never, ever waver. There's no shame in it, Bren. Lots of people are. Your continued insistence that you're an independent just makes your arguments here all the more untenable.

@Bren -

Oh great and eternally wise Bren, where exactly did I call any names on this board, let alone this thread, except to once again state how your parading around as an 'independent' is an absolute "joke?"

Is this clearly false accusation indicative of the accuracy of all of your so-called 'fact checking?'

@Bob -

Just as along as this event isn't really a lefty decoy just to get conservatives to gather all in one place so that they can be eliminated, just as our government did with the Colombian drug cartels in 'Clear and Present Danger' (1994). Perhaps you're right - maybe barricades aren't enough! Maybe we need some TSA-level entry security as well.

@Bren -

"I'm not saying it's wrong to be in a park, but I have an issue with trying to keep people out when public officials are on the agenda."

So, according to Bren, public officials shouldn't be allowed to take part in private events that are only open to select people? REALLY??? Then why couldn't I get in to any of the $10k a plate Obama fundraisers? After all, he's a public official.

Likewise, I guess you also believe that public official's private homes should be fully open and accessible to the public whenever the public official is there, right?

Also, where is your criticism of the right-leaning news reporter getting kicked out of a private recall event that was attended by public Democrat officials?

Come on Bren, admit that this is a completely stupid standard that you've come up with here, as any true 'independent' would.

Ok, I admit first I am one of a few independent voters who is actually sick and tired of ALL politicians and seeing neighbor against neighbor over our political differences. The first question I ask myself is, what has any politician done to improve the quality of my life the last 10 years...nothing. We have supported a war that was fraud, we support programs where there is considerable fraud (child day care) but as the middle class taxpayer, I get nothing in return for my dollar paid in taxes and as a small business owner this state does nothing at all to help me survive. So who do I support....no one. I want term limits on all politicians, I want outside money on both parties to stop because that is what is running this country now is big money, not the American citizens. AIG owes $118 billion back to us, pay us before politicians get a handout.

Wake up people. We all have a right to either protest or rally and it should be celebrated that we have the right to do this because the way things are going now, all our rights as a middle class citizen is soon to perish just like this great country, it is almost beyond repair. The arab spring has sprung and when does it stop, when there is bloodshed over such foolishness. Rid all politicians and time to start over.

These people are all afraid of themselves Bren.

Mike, you are absolutely right. The political process is hamstrung by special interests $, and "campaign strategists" who get paid regardless how poorly they do. Jon Huntsman is an excellent example of this--I think he is an impressive candidate who was willing to work with Democrats for the good of the country. Unfortunately, his campaign had no teeth and eventually no legs.

Amen, atthec44. Jim Doyle's raiding this fund to pay for that program and that fund to pay for this program is what broke the State's piggybank. He never saw a tough decision he could not run away from soon enough. Just ask Greece and the other social entitlement European countries how well this approach has worked out for them. You kick that can down the road that one, two, three too many times, and payback is a...

Ah, how quickly we forget the mess Jim Doyle inherited from Tommy Thompson/Scott McCallum...

AND WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NATIONAL UNION MONEY COMING TO WISCONSIN TO SUPPORT THESE THUGS THAT ARE TRYING TO BRAINWASH OUR KIDS IN SCHOOL USING OUR TAXDOLLARS FOR CORRUPTION INSTEAD OF TEACHING

Yes, this is why Walker supporters far outnumbered the protestors at the Capitol last winter. Every single person who voted for Scott Walker showed up at the Capitol to show their support--oh wait.

Seems to me that the only way to get Republicans outside in any number above a dozen is to drive them around in three nice comfy Tea Party Express coach buses. Can't wait to see how many people show up for this event!

In between shouting and waving your hand drawn sign and flipping people off, see if you can get a count for us, Bren.

Bundle up tight, brave Soldier of Justice!

Bren-
We were all at work, making money and a future for our families and businesses. We showed up November 2010 in large enough numbers and put one man in the capitol building to speak for all of us. 1 beat all of your whinny crying give me give me protestors.

Bob, are you describing the treasurer of the Racine Republican party who drove around recall signature collectors screaming and waving, then tried to back his Lexus into their group? Or the guy who broke a signature collector's camera? Or the guy who lobbed a full can of soda at Jason P.'s head?

Let's stick with the facts, please. Name call all you want if it makes you feel better. At least you're stretching your imagination instead of falling back on the talking point "union thugs," "union leaders," "union goons," "whiners," "sore losers," ad nauseum...

Bren, just get a count between all that while you're there acting a fool, okay? Do one thing productive at least.

Bren:

I think you are confusing 'name calling' with 'using adjectives/similes'...

Ummm, were you in a coma last January and February? It was WINTER during the major protests, duh!

Bren: We show our support for Walker at the polls. We don't ask for do-overs. We don't throw tantrums and cry like spoiled children. We tighten our belt and go back to work.
You teach your kids to pout, not keep score in sports because someone will feel bad, fight for a retest if they fail in class- omg what a great failure you are raising. You must be so proud.

more like TSFSW

I agree Steve ... T. G. F. State Workers !

@Wauk
It's called Solidarity with our brothers and sisters.

Of course Walker has his own form of Solidarity with New York and TX rich folks who he gets money from. Walker is a hypocrite---always whining about out of state protesters-like you just did and they turns around and flies out of state for the big bucks!

Better then yours stuck up your azz !

They program so easily.

Good idea! After 2 months of collecting and fabricating signatures, I am sure your place is a pig-sty.

We'll, getting out on the street to get those real signatures means that chores would be neglected

Of course Graig, with you typing from your mother's basement and your mother cleaning your room, it is tough to comprehend how someone could fall behind.

So glad you discount this effort. It will make the impact of those million people who are fed up with the power grab even harder.

Cmon Nac ... Who doesn't love Tommy the " Turd " Thompson.

WE HAVE SHOVER READY JOBS IN MINES IN THIS STATE BEING HELD UP BY DEMO DOGOODERS WE HAVE A SOCIALIST IN THE WHITHOUSE THAT JUST PUT A STOP ON $800 BILLION WORTH OF PIPELINE SHOVEL READY WORK !YOU NEED YOUR HEAD WORKED ON YOU BEEN DRINKING TO MUCH SOCIALIST TEA

I agree, Walker has failed miserably in the area of job creation and was elected because he ran on this platform. As a small business owner the state gives me nothing at all, nada, to help my business grow so I can hire more people. He created this mess and had 1 million signatures because he choose not to listen to the people and cram his agenda down the throats of others. It is not about whining or being a baby, it is about people having their voices not heard anymore and the democaratic process is working now.

Obamocare failed but Walker continues to turn down federal money needed for childhood immunizations, diagnostic procedures that detect illness and lifesaving medications. He did again today. When does the foolishness stop? He does this to spite obama instead of realizing the needs of the people.

I voted for GW1 and he failed. I voted for Clinotn and felt he did a decent job. GW2 failed and led us to a war that was fraud so his buddies in big business could get rich. I voted for Obama and he has failed. I am no longer voting for a Democrat or Republican because all they do is fight, point fingers and take money from big companies to fatten their own wallets.

Maybe we should start a new political party that maybe stands up for the American citizen and is honest. Show me that candidate and they get my vote. I did vote for Walker but did sign the recall because he also has failed miserably.

@tom - first why are you yelling? second - you are aware that the Republicans still hold a majority in both chambers so please explain how democrats can "hold up" anything on their own?

Tom, just a word.

Your CAPS key is stuck, your spell check is down and your shrink is trying to reach you.

Whats a shover or a whithouse?

That's a place for very witty people, where I guess Obama belongs.

WISCONSIN COULD HAVE HAD MANY JOBS IN HIGH SPEED RAIL TOO. BUT WE ALL KNOW WHO POOPED ON THAT!

Tom ... If your not a miner or no one else is a miner in the proposed area how is that going to relieve job losses. It may create jobs for Republican woman who are prostitutes like it did in the Dakotas.

PROBABLY A VW!

Are you kidding? It's a BMW or a Mercedes like the ones that fund his campain drive!

FIGURES! it's too cold for king scotty to venture out in like all the dpw workers that he has villianized have to every day!

... and who paid for the tickets ? The taxpayers again ?