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Time to Unite and Defeat Scott Walker

Please check out a new group on Facebook asking Kathleen Falk to unite with Tom Barrett in defeating Scott Walker in the upcoming recall election.

Although I admire Kathleen and feel that she has the highest ethics and integrity, I am afraid the unions have co-opted her and created a perception that she is a one-issue candidate. I do not think she is; I have much more respect for her accomplishments and goals.

However, perception becomes reality, and of the utmost importance is the recall of Scott Walker and returning the Wisconsin values that Scott Walker has been assaulting.

Please read my reasoning in more detail by visiting the Facebook group.

 

 

Steve ®

2:14 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Free Cadillac healthcare plans, free pensions, collective barging, Insurance scams, and budget deficits are not Wisconsin values. If you value these things Illinois is a short drive south and would love a few dollars to piss away.

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CowDung

2:51 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

I'm not on Facebook, so I can't read your reasoning in more detail...

The unions will never allow it. They have way too much invested in Falk and don't trust Barrett to be their stooge.

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Keith Best

2:53 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

(Cleveland) - The budget ax will swing further in the Cleveland Metropolitan School District. The school board Tuesday night approved a plan that will eliminate more than 500 K-through-8 teachers jobs. Ohio voted down Walker style reforms. (This could have happened in WI. and the teachers here have no clue.)

Over a Billion Dollars have been saved thanks to Gov. Walkers reforms. Want proof? Go here:
www.reforms.wi.gov
www.itsworkingwisconsin.com

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Bren

3:03 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

David, I agree. I voted for Barrett in November because I believed he had best mind, ethics, and social skills for the job and I still do. Nothing against Falk, but I wish she hadn't signed that pledge.

I'm certain the Walker contains much that needs correction/improvement, if what he turned in as CE was any indication. How about that budget, which provides the largest cut to K-12 education in state history, cuts the salary of 200,000 people by 9% to fund ALEC corporate tax breaks and support ALEC union stripping, cuts EIC and Homestead credits, and services to sexual assault victims by 42%, but still scrapes together $750,000+ to hand out to a few favored state employees.

I would go into the governor's office knowing that that entire budget would have to be reviewed and overhauled. I think it's right to have the conversation about restoring stupid cuts, but Walker's budgeting errors (and I will stake my life there are) need to be fixed first. I'd suspend the July 2012 budget "bomb" until that review.

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Adam Wienieski

11:41 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

The Budget Repair Bill saved school districts so much money there were no layoffs and nothing needed to be cut. Despite the loss of 5 percent per pupil in revenue class sizes didn't increase, art and music are still on the curriculum. Perhaps you'll recall (pun intended) that state revenues and tax collections are down due to the Great Recession, the one-time stimulus money is spent and Wisconsin is already a high tax state.

Teachers now pay 5.8 percent towards their pensions and 12.6 percent for their health care premiums -- both are screaming deals compared with the private sector. Do you really think taxpayers are going to continue working until they're 68 years old so public union employees can continue retiring at 55 with fully paid health care thanks to the "banked" sick days scam?

Time to eat all your words, swallow your pride, open your eyes.

Keith Best

3:16 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

School Superintendent Todd Gray of Waukesha School District quoted last week speaking to his School Board, "We're very confident that we're in a very good place. (This after $9.3 million deficit was erased) We don't have any expected layoffs coming nor do we have any expected program reductions"

Just another example of Gov. Walkers reforms working.

(comments were printed in the Waukesha Freeman dated Thursday April 19, 2012, page 4A)

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Tommy

5:19 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Yes - thank you governor Walker! This is one of MANY examples.

Steve ®

3:25 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

lol

►David, not sure why you added me to this group, but I don't appreciate doing so without being asked. I have my own opinions that I don't really want to share on Facebook. Capiche?
►david-i have to echo what several other folks have said. i do not appreciate being added to this group/page/discussion thread. i not only work for the wi state afl-cio who has endorsed kathleen falk, but i also personally support her. i think the letter you have shared is incredibly undermining to the entire recall process. next time, please ask before you add me to one of your groups.

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David Tatarowicz

4:58 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

@Steve I am glad that there is a debate going on among those who want to Recall Walker --- it is democracy in action --- unlike Walker signing controversial bills aimed against women in Wisconsin, and the Republicans secretly drawing up a new voter district map in secret and even Making their Own Republican Lawmakers Sign a Pledge to Keep their Work on the Map Secret .... of course if you like that type of government along with the political patronage and payoffs --- Walker is your guy !!

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Steve ®

8:37 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

This is what democracy looks like
This is what democracy looks like

Way to just insert some copy and paste liberal rant about how life is unfair and walker stole my teddy bear.

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Steve ®

11:37 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

I thought the recall was about ACT 10? What now that it is a resounding success you have to change the subject and cherry pick other worthless talking points?

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David Tatarowicz

11:18 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

@ Steve Your comment "I thought the recall was about ACT 10? What now that it is a resounding success you have to change the subject and cherry pick other worthless talking points?" --- I am sure for the union folks that is their primary concern --- I think it is unfair, but it almost pales in comparison to the other agendas Walker is running. It has become Class Warfare --- OH MY --- that will set off every Rich Wannabe who thinks they will pay more in taxes when they get to the wealth level of the Koch Brothers --- Pity the Fools !!

In addition, having grown up in Chicago, I know just how corrupt politics and government can get --- Walker it seems, has studied those lessons hard, and has brought Patronage, Payoffs, Secret Deals, and Corrupt Bureaucrats to a new and higher level here in Wisconsin --- and he is financing this with mostly Out of State Money --- again, Pity the Fools !!!

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Steve ®

2:20 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

I have personally seen corrupt politics and unions in Chicago as well. You are crazy to compare them to Walker. Such little depth, such great imagination.

Tom Barrett

3:35 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

It's time to stop goofing around and to take the fork in the road.

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Tom Barrett

4:05 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

A bus station is where a bus stops.

A train station is where a train stops.

On my desk, I have a work station..

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J. B. Schmidt

4:05 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Unite behind Walker and defeat union special interests.

Then you don't have to choose between to previous losers.

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Bren

8:03 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Choose Walker and the seditious ALEC agenda or the people of Wisconsin.

(Hint: Coke, Pepsi, Kraft, Intuit, McDonald's Corp., Wendy's Corp, and Yum Brands have all dumped the ALEC agenda).

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Keith Schmitz

10:15 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Why aren't the Koch and the extremely affluent special interests?

Your only problem with the unions is that they tend to support Democrats. The members vote for their "union bosses" because it advances their economic positions.

For someone who obviously votes against his self interest is oddly proud of it, you are not expected to understand this.

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J. B. Schmidt

7:30 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

@Bren
You are a one trick pony with constant ALEC references.

@Keith
The problem is not the unions supporting Democrats, that I can live with. The conflict arises when the Democrats support the unions and not the what best serves the state.

Greg

4:05 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Yep, perception becomes reality when you sign a pact with the unions. Give me a freakin' break. How much more reality do you need? The left can not identify any real reason for the recall. Keep paddling, even though your ship has sunk.

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Tom Barrett

5:04 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

A a good politician is someone who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you will look forward to the trip.

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WEACHATER

5:42 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Ofcourse there is no reason to recall Walker Look at Shorewood, where they just saved 1/2 a million by switching from WEATrust insurance. The teachers cost for health care actually is going to go down. The only reason that they can give to recall is so they can have their collective bargaining, back so they can force the school distict to by the much more expensive product. Same benifits now, with costs going down, or the same old same old.

So what is the choice going to be liberals?

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Luke

5:53 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

@WEACHATER

<<<So what is the choice going to be liberals?>>>

Get in a line behind Barrett and cheer until the march begins. Then watch everyone fall over when they realize he considered himself the end of the line and he is marching backwards.

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Tom Barrett

7:25 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Teachers work 180 days per year. Those are days that can never get back!! Is that fair???

David Tatarowicz

6:05 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

From Politi Facts as of April 19:

The new report puts state private-sector employment at 2,329,500, compared with 2,323,600 when Walker took office -- an increase of 5,900 jobs. That leaves the governor with 244,100 jobs left to reach 250,000.

The Giant Sucking Sound you hear are the unemployed leaving Wisconsin for other states that are actually Creating Jobs !!

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Tom Barrett

6:19 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Time to go back to what we had before Walker. 150,000 jobs lost in the 3 years before he took office. Too bad he's been slowing down that trend.

Illinois just raised its tax rate 64%, so now it has finally caught up to our lowest rate, but it will have to do another 30% increase to catch up to what we charge most people in this state, and another 64% to catch up to our top rate. Wisconsin also has higher corporate taxes than Illinois and pays more than any neighboring state on teacher healthcare.

We need to raise taxes more and more to stay ahead of our neighboring states. Businesses love high taxes.

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Bren

8:08 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

By my reckoning it will take more than 200 years to achieve Walker's goal of 250,000 new jobs at current rates. It's actually more upsetting to me that he would make such a stupid pledge at the height of a recession, knowing there was no way in which this promise could be kept. It shows a disdain for the residents of our state that is highly offensive to me.

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Steve ®

8:40 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Remember: Democrats voted against thousands of jobs and a Mine.

Remember: Democrats have kept our state in political limbo for more than a year with constant voting and recalls.

Remember: Democrats are unable to resists socialism federally and locally. Obama's agenda trickles down all the way.

Remember: Before Walker we lost 150,000 jobs and had a 3.6 billion dollar deficit, in a state of only 5 million.

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Keith Schmitz

10:17 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Governing is more than cutting taxes. We have to elect a leader, not a butcher.

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Steve ®

11:39 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

How about Shorewood saving 1/2 million by dumping teachers union trust with no change in services Keith? What kind of evil butchers you have living over there?

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Tom Barrett

3:59 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

EXAMPLES OF HORRIBLE ACT 10 STUFF HAPPENING IN WISCONSIN:

• Ashland School District - saved $378,000 on health insurance.


• Kimberly School District - saved $821,000 by dropping WEA Trust Insurance.


• Edgerton School District - dropping WEA Trust, expecting to save at least $500,000.


• Baraboo School District - dropping WEA Trust, expecting to save at least $660,000.


• Dodgeland School District - dropping WEA Trust, expecting to save $260,000.


• Elmbrook School District - changing health care provider, savings estimated at $878,000.


• Mequon-Thiensville School District - saving $49,000 on dental insurance coverage.


• Marshfield School District - saving $850,00 by dropping WEA Trust.


• City of Sheboygan - Mayor Bob Ryan says collective bargaining reforms will provide enough savings to make up for the reduction in state aid.

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Tom Barrett

4:00 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

• Wauwatosa School District - tax levy decreasing, no programs will be cut, class sizes won’t increase, thanks to the reforms in collective bargaining.


• Manitowoc - Laid-off city workers may get their jobs back due to the wage/benefit reforms contained in Walker’s budget. Changes to overtime rules saving the county $100,000.


• Pittsville - will see a 9% decrease in the school portion of their property tax levy. “This is the first year we have not needed to short-term borrow,” stated Board President Strenn.


• Appleton School District - will save $3.1 million just in health insurance costs due to being able to bid out the coverage and being able to drop WEA Trust.


• Racine County - inmates can now be used to perform tasks such as landscaping, painting and shoveling sidewalks. Executive Ladwig states this is a win/win for the inmates and the county. It frees up county employees for other tasks, gives the inmates a sense of value, and helps the county maintain property that has been neglected.


• Kaukauna School District - hiring additional teachers, reducing class sizes, enacting a merit pay system, and due to Walker’s Budget Bill, Kaukauna’s operating budget has moved from a negative $400,000 to a positive $1,500,000. Much of this savings was due to being able to drop WEA Trust.


• Hartland School District - switched from WEA Trust and saved $690,000.

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Tom Barrett

4:00 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

• Hudson School District - saved $832,000 on health insurance due to ability to bid the insurance. KSTP did a study of the savings in Sheila Harsdorf’s 10th Senate District. They found that Ellsworth, Prescott, Menomonie, Somerset and Hudson school districts are all reporting large savings due to the changes signed into law by Gov. Walker.

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Keith Schmitz

5:09 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

These are all one time cuts. Because of the decrease in state revenue thanks to job loss under Walker, there will be more state aid cuts to come. History tells us that nothing Walker does is thought through. Look at the mess of a bill that is voter ID.

Wisconsin will either recall him now or suffer through two more years and kick him out in 2014. Worse than Nixon.

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Luke

5:50 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

@Keith

On the contrary, they will be continued year after year.

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Steve ®

8:27 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

Yep, Keith is a little butt hurt that Shorewood used Act 10

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Steve ®

8:40 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012

►These are all one time cuts.◄

This is exactly why your business failed. Think about it.

WEACHATER

6:17 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

No David the sucking sound is the liberals around the state that are still sucking on the public teet.

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Tom Barrett

6:42 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

High taxes + more taxes = jobs.

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Keith Schmitz

5:09 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

Sound of Walker's sucker supporters.

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Greg

1:12 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012

5:09 am, WoW Keith that's pretty early to be that drunk.

Terrance Jones

10:20 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

Tom Barrett- you are a terrible human being. Scott Walker is courageous and passed laws like a statesman that he knew would cost him politically, but that would benefit the citizens of this state. He did this despite ghoulish, thuggish behavior directed at himself, his children, his wife, and his parents. You used what he did to help balance your budget. And now you are attacking him after using his tools. You are a childish, ignorant man Mr. Barrett and will lose because nobody wants a loser in charge of this state.

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Luke

11:15 pm on Monday, April 23, 2012

@Terrance Jones

I agree with what you just said, but if it is addressed to the Tom Barrett that is posting here on the Patch, you might want to take note that although it may appear at first glace that he is supporting Barrett, anything he posts actually makes the opposite point.

The two links above concern the fact that Falk and Barrett can't even tell us how they would have managed last year's budget, so the post is actually making fun of Barrett's leadership. He (Barrett the candidate) won't give us any details about what he would have done in the past or the future. I suspect that he can't possibly do the math, so he just avoids the topic.

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Luke

5:52 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

Amauture hour candidates.

David Tatarowicz

11:39 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

From Bureau of Labor Statistics -- WISCONSIN ONLY STATE TO LOSE JOBS !!
(edited to fit the comments section --- website http://www.bls.gov/news.release/laus.htm

Table D. States with statistically significant employment changes from
March 2011 to March 2012, seasonally adjusted
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| March | March | Over-the-year
State | 2011 | 2012(p) | change(p)
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California....................| 14,056,300 | 14,237,300 | 181,000

Colorado......................| 2,244,700 | 2,290,500 | 45,800

Florida.......................| 7,238,900 | 7,328,700 | 89,800

Indiana.......................| 2,830,800 | 2,867,000 | 36,200

Minnesota.....................| 2,673,200 | 2,704,700 | 31,500

New York......................| 8,649,400 | 8,804,700 | 155,300

North Carolina................| 3,920,100 | 3,958,900 | 38,800

Ohio..........................| 5,077,400 | 5,137,000 | 59,600

Texas.........................| 10,496,000 | 10,741,700 | 245,700


Wisconsin.....................| 2,754,500 | 2,730,600 | -23,900

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David Tatarowicz

11:40 am on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

WOW --- If Wisconsin is really Open for Business --- why don't the employers know that ? Maybe Walker meant that Wisconsin is Open for Monkey Business LOL

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Alfred

8:56 am on Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Those are goobermint job loses, that is a net gain to all of us tax payers Mr. Tataowicz. Doing a little research on you my friend, what is it with you and not paying your bills? Is this how you envision Wisconsin operating, like Illinois? Just don't pay your bills?

J. B. Schmidt

12:02 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

@David
If I am not mistake Wisconsin is the only state where Democrats refuse to allow the government to actually govern and instead wish to run election after election and recall after recall. Since the Democrats want to repeal everything Walker has done, why would a business take a chance. Or are businesses in favor of high taxation and simply waiting for Democrats to take control?

If I am not mistaken before the Democrats waged complete war on Wisconsin, the jobs numbers went up in early 2011.

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David Tatarowicz

12:34 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

@JB "If I am not mistake Wisconsin is the only state where Democrats refuse to allow the government to actually govern"

J B I think you may have missed Civics Class when you went to school. Our system of government is intentionally set up as a "check and balance" system. That is how we have avoided tyrants becoming dictators --- no one branch of government, or party, has complete control all the time.

The Democrats are Part of the Government! Looking back at our history, you will find example after example of the swings of the pendulum from one extreme to another.

Yes it would be cleaner and less nerve racking to have everyone join hands and sing Kumbaya --- but it don't work that way.

And you are mistaken if you think that Wisconsin is the only state without political dissension --- I would actually be interested to learn of Any State that does not have factions and sides and give and take.

If anything, here in Wisconsin under Walker and the Republicans -- there has only been Take and no Give --- but the pendulum of politics never stops, and it will swing the other way in good time ---- I only hope that if the Democrats get the kind of absolute control as the Republicans had for a few months, that they won't follow in those footsteps and start to lead by fiat --- although I won't hold my breath.

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J. B. Schmidt

4:21 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

@David
You completely avoided my point. I understand that politics is divisive. However, when a political party takes control is has it for 2+ years providing some stability. In Wisconsin, we have had no stability thanks to the Democrats. Instead, nothing is settled as to what will be the path of the state. In the other states you mentioned, business can adjust to the policies and move forward. Here what should a business do, abide by current policy or adjust to what might be repealed? If hold current policy you will kicked in arse if Walker fails. If you adjust assuming Walker fails you could be short changing yourself.

Democrats had absolute control under Doyle and ran a muck with the budget. The only solution was a 180, unless you prefer the massive deficits the IL has.

doug toader

12:37 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

all that hard work and what does Falk and Barrett stand for?
They won't say! You need to elect one of them to see what they will do!
uhh nothing? not sure? what ever the union teachers need?
They will let you know on June 7th. LOL!
To be continued......

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Mike

1:41 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

Barrett has already showed us how he has created all these jobs in Milwaukee since he's been mayor. NOT

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Johnny Blade

2:04 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

Why shouldn't the government be allowed to make me a slave well i guess 40% slave as i get to keep 60% of my wages .. yeah sounds like freedom to me ... oh and i don't even get to own my land i have to lease it from the government via property taxes the new feudal system ... and these dorks don't get enough of my money .. Time for a big TEA party ... or i say let these fools spend us into oblivion and see if they have a pension left or a FIAT dollar worth anything

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AudiFan

7:37 pm on Tuesday, April 24, 2012

I shudder to think of the damage Barrett or Falk could do to Wisconsin if either of them became Governor.

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Tom Barrett

3:44 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012

BAD BAD BAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.newstalk1130.com/pages/common_sense_central.html?article=10075572

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Luke

9:50 pm on Wednesday, April 25, 2012

What a load of crap.

There are a couple of problems with the way that some of the rags are reporting this story, but to it's credit, the Patch did not make ALL the mistakes that some are making.

Buried at the end of the JSONLINE article, we find a passing reference to the fact that that Wisconsin is ONE of only 18 states to have a statistically significant decrease in unemployment durning the last year. In fact, unemployment has dropped from 7.6% to 6.8%. You wouldn't know that from the headline, because the Journal used the Dem's press release headline, verbatim. Shocker.

So that's Scott Walker's record in his first year. It's one that Obama wishes he could have had in his first year. What about Barrett's record? The Patch alludes to the issue by quoting the Walker press release, yet the Journal does not.

Barrett has been the mayor of Milwaukee since 2004. 8 years. During that time, the number of unemployed has increased a whopping 30%, and that's with a decreasing overall population in the city. In other words, the 30% statistic is lower than it otherwise would have been because there are FEWER people who want to live there. In addition, a UWM study has declared that Milwaukee is now the 4th poorest city in the nation. Another study documents that Milwaukee has 9 of the 10 worst high schools in the state.

Milwaukee is a cesspool. Thank you, Mr. Barrett.

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David Tatarowicz

10:21 am on Thursday, April 26, 2012

@ TB As noted earlier this is just "cost shifting". The costs of insurance have not gone down, the payment of those costs were simply shifted from the government entity that agreed to them in negotiations with their labor, to the labor itself.

Nothing that Walker has done has addressed the fundamental issues of why costs are so high --- as hospitals continue to shift their facilities to higher income suburbs and actually overload the capacity in those suburbs, they have to raise their charges to pay for those expansions. NOTHING is done to regulate those un-necessary costs !

Instead of focusing on government teachers and DPW garbage men and electricians, etc., let's pass a law (and just for sake of discussion pretend it would be legal in the private sector) that all Law Firms must increase the contribution of their partners to pay more for their health insurance costs. The Law Firms can claim that they have lowered their costs --- which they have by shifting them to their partners. But they have done nothing to improve health care quality or costs by doing so.

In essence all that Walker has done is RAISE TAXES ON A SELECT GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS --- Government Employees! It is estimated that Teachers have lost almost $5000 of their income to this new Tax on their Income. Since they are government employees it is legal --- but is it fair?

Cops and Firefighters didn;t get hit with this new tax -- since they already paid up (off) to Walker with contributions.

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