Gov. Scott Walker Recall Effort Seeks 540,000 Signatures

Lyle Ruble October 18, 2011 at 09:04 pm

@Angry White Dude...Now I understand your anti-intellectualism and some of your prejudices. I now also know you use income to keep score. Sad, very sad.

Jeff Klass October 18, 2011 at 09:28 pm

Thanks for that, however I have over 50,000 invested in equipment, and more than that in training for myself & my employees. You are correct that it takes hard work and good service. What a simple equation. Too bad the OWS crowd doesn't look at it like that. I tend to keep it simple. Hard work, honest labor, good wage = good things for America. People getting in over their heads in homes they cannot afford, or blaming a balloon mortgage, or going 100k in debt for school & then playing the victim card? Yeah - that's obviously not their fault. They should be forgiven their errors, right? I came through Chapter 7 when I was 22 years old. My rating now is 800+. Hard work, honest living. No government handout, no government hand up. No government teat to suckle away the bad things. OWS needs to be crushed, because they are what is WRONG with this country.
And, by the by - F.U. & your elitist "you may not understand the manipulation of capital". You don't know jack about how & how much I know. This is alos not my first recession, son. Hard work, honest living. Or cry to the government. I'll take my chances & hitch my ponies to Main Street any day you elitist clown.

Jeff Klass October 18, 2011 at 09:32 pm

@Rubie - put this in your hooka & smoke it:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/17/politics/main5317823.shtml or http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/education/59191-government-to-take-over-all-student-loans-rep-michele-bachmann or http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/17/private-student-loans-wou_n_289717.html Judgemental little man.

Lyle Ruble October 18, 2011 at 09:56 pm

@Jeff Klass...Sorry if I hit a raw nerve, but facts are facts. You have invested $50K in equipment, but I'm sure you didn't start your business with that kind of investment. I know a little about recessions and your business is perfect for survival. I spent my business career as an entrepreneur and working for global corporations. I know how business gets manipulated. My comment concerning manipulation of the economy by the financial institutions is especially harmful on those businesses that can't operate without a line of credit. Cash flow is king and restricted credit lines slow the process and increases exposure.
In some ways I am glad i am fully retired and I don't have to directly deal with the current problems. As an entrepreneur you should be down there marching with them.

Terry Burkett October 18, 2011 at 10:21 pm

Here is what the 30 year Republican rant against government and in favor of corporations has done to our nation: the top 1% now owns 42% of the nations wealth, the ration of CEO to employee pay rose to 256:1, worker wages remain stagnant for 30 years, wall street run amuck (credit fault swap, hedge funds and derivatives completely unregulated) leading to a highly unstable stock market, high middle class debt, NO middle class savings, low social/economic mobility, 72% of corporations with a healthy balance sheets are laying off workers, corporate socialism (banks and wall street bailed out for making risky bets), 9.8% unemployment, 42,000 factories have closed, the interest rate at an all time low and credit card companies charging 29% interest, at 2.4% of GDP- the US invests the lowest in its infastructure then 30 developed countries, a $2,200 annual decline in the median family income since 2001, 22% of all children in this country live in poverty (the next highest is the Netherlands at 9.8%) This is the country we live in. The republican answer to thse issues is to reduce taxes on the wealthy, continue to deregulate the financial system and invest no money into our schools and infastructure. Makes sense...

Lyle Ruble October 18, 2011 at 11:00 pm

@Angry White Dude...Cicero sums you up pretty well. Obama is not the traitor you and your ilk are. You worry only about yourself and the rest of society can go straight to hell.

Andrew Martin October 19, 2011 at 12:09 am

Well said, Lyle. I assume that the "comments deleted" person is he who loves facism and cowers behind a fake name? Can someone get the poor creature some psychiatric help?

Brian Dey October 19, 2011 at 09:57 am

The union conceded nothing. If anybody is being dishonest, it's the union bosses who are lying. He did run on this agenda, and jst because you weren't paying attention... It's no secret at all that Dems have been bought, corrupted and paid for by unions and all unions do is protect bad employees and wine and dine dems to get their over=bloated benefitw and wages.

Lyle Ruble October 19, 2011 at 10:42 am

@Brian Dey...Obviously you don't have much experience in dealing with public sector unions except for the teacher's union in RUSD. Too bad you have developed such a negative attitude toward unions. It reminds me of the attitude of coal mine owners toward coal miners. Now that Walker has busted the public employee unions, who are you going to scapegoat next and blame for Walker's jobs plan not working?

Brian Dey October 19, 2011 at 11:38 am

Lyle- Not exactly true. I've dealt with not only the Racine Education Association, but with the SEIU, AFSCME, and 3 other unions servicing RUSD on two contract negotiations and was on the grevience committee for three years. So don't even try to say that I don't have much experience with public sector unions. And it was because of those "hands-on" experiences that I have formulated my opinion that it was absolutely essential to strictly limit collective bargaining, or face mass lay-offs to make up budget shortfalls. The unions, all six that I dealt with, were never seriously going to address pensions and healthcare because they had no reason to. With a complicate board majority that the unions pumped money into their elections, status quo would have remained infinitum.
It is laughable to compare coalminers to public sector employees. What you also don't know is that I was a 9 year member of the IAMAW so I've seen both in the public and private sector. Public sector employees were enjoying much better pensions and health care than most private companies. The gap was huge, and the one party at the table (the taxpayers) were not represented at the table. So please spare the diatribes of how evil Walker's diabolical plan was. Unlike Doyle, who was more concerned about protecting and advocating for the 330,000 public sector employees, Walker was more concerned about protecting an advocating for the remaining 5.1 million peolpe of Wisconsin.

Lyle Ruble October 19, 2011 at 11:48 am

@Brian Dey...OK I stand corrected that you have plenty of union experience, but that doesn't mean you're right in your assessment of the need for Walker to bust the unions. It is especially clear that his move is nothing more than positioning the Republican Party's stacking the deck by cutting off a source of funding to the Democrats.

Steve October 19, 2011 at 01:03 pm

Yes, the democrats really did a number on this country. We should continue to fire them in 2012.

Patriot October 19, 2011 at 02:43 pm

@Lyle-Its clear that elections matter!! It was clear during those elections that the majority spoke up. It is also clear that Gov Walker is doing what he was elected to do. It is also clear that because the far left did not agree the FAB 14 felt it necessary to run across the border!! Now explain to me how that is Democracy? Had I pulled that stunt in my private sector job I would have joined the masses in the unemployment line. Yet the FAB 14 hired and payed for by the public, yet we have no say in the BS disappearing act

Patriot October 19, 2011 at 02:46 pm

Obama is selling this Country OUT!!! Not sure what world you live in but the world I live in the people say something completely different. His agendas and policies are of a socialist nature completely. I have heard the term Top down, bottum up, inside out so many times it makes me SICK!!! The biggest reason the people of this Country will never lay down their arms. Our 2nd amendment is the key to TRUE FREEDOM!!

Jeff Klass October 19, 2011 at 02:56 pm

The key to true freedom from all this political BS is term limits. 2 terms for a senator (12 years) 6 terms for the house (12 years). If your whiz bang plans haven't passed in 12 years, they sucked & it's time to move on. Term limit all political offices, term limit appointed & elected judges, term limit civil servant jobs. All of it. INSANE to have a dead in the head Kennedy OR Thurmond, McCain, et al in the seats of power. Out of touch, corrupt and doddering fools. Pelosi? If you can't agree to draw & quarter that harpy, then at least for God's sake term limit her. Barney effing Frank? Gay hooker service being run out of his D.C. apartment & he is still making law? Hang him. Old "wide stance" what's his name? Shoot him. TERM. LIMITS.

Lyle Ruble October 19, 2011 at 03:12 pm

@Dave...You live in a fantasy world. The only reason for the 14 senators left was to slow down Walker's steamroller and his unprecedented grab for executive power with his rubber stamp legislature.

Jeff Klass October 19, 2011 at 03:31 pm

That's funny. When Doyle & the dems held court, the GOP never abandoned that rubber stamp legislature. I'd LOVE to see how the left would have portrayed the same move if made by the GOP. Patriotic slow down of an out of control power hungry governor? Nah - I kind of doubt it. What slimy hypocrites the left really, at their core, are.

Lyle Ruble October 19, 2011 at 03:53 pm

@Jeff Klass...I'll go along for term limits for elected politicians. The rest of your diatribe is foolish at best and criminal at worst.

Lyle Ruble October 19, 2011 at 03:57 pm

@Jeff Klass...What you say is true, the GOP didn't leave, but the Democrats didn't try to ram such fundamental draconian changes through. Keep it in context.

Patriot October 19, 2011 at 04:03 pm

@Lyle-Sooooooo sad!! I wonder if back when the settlers found their way to this Country had they had the belief systems that you and your fellow left wing nuts jobs have, Would we know this Country for what it is today? Think NOT!! No one came here with their hands out looking for someone else to show them the way.
Gov Walker was elected to do a job and for once we actually elected an offical who did what he said he would do.

Patriot October 19, 2011 at 04:07 pm

@Jeff-Not only term limits but no damn retirement either. When their term is up they return to what it was they were doing before elected. Politicians have to buy into the same health care that the general public buys into as well. No cushy health care plans. They can make all these laws for the citizen yet they are exempt from following the same laws.

Bren October 21, 2011 at 10:40 pm

The safety net is there for a reason, such as a candidate with a radical, corporate-funded social agenda who commits an egregious lie of omission to the electorate. This is the first time in my lifetime that this has occurred, and hopefully it is the last, lesson learned. But the safety net needs to be there to protect all of us, and future generations.

Steve October 23, 2011 at 05:58 am

It just hit me who is behind the recall !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Koch Brothers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How brilliant this is: Get Walker elected, get the left riled up which doesn't take much. Get them to sign some paper, force the recall. Run a Koch brother as a democrat since no liberal really knows what they look like anyway. Koch brother money in to smear Walker in the media. Koch brother running as a democrat wins. Total control of State with liberal support. The ultimate plan is now complete WI is under control to corporate interest all regulations thrown out the window and the entire state is mined down to it's core for any mineral available.

Patriot October 23, 2011 at 10:10 am

@Bren-So Gov Walker is a radical because he is doing something? Hmmmm Then explain to me your President!!! The most RADICAL PROGRESSIVE President this Country has ever had

Patriot October 23, 2011 at 10:13 am

Now thats funny

Bucky November 6, 2011 at 03:41 pm

Walker should be tarred and feathered .

Bucky November 6, 2011 at 03:43 pm

Just remember that your paying for Walkers health care plan.

Bucky November 6, 2011 at 04:09 pm

I support Scooter Wanker 100% and as soon as I can find a job IM going to piss on a penny and send it to him.

Bucky November 6, 2011 at 07:50 pm

Wanker is just a Kock Roach. He works for big business. He could care less about anyone on this site or in the state of Wisconsin. His only interest is to line his own pockets. What does he care anout Wisconsin he wasn't even born in this state. He's just a puppet for the puppet masters.

Patriot November 6, 2011 at 08:37 pm

@Bucky-Because ur boy Doyle did such a great job right? Hmmmm I think if you look at the voting above u will see the majority feel Walker will not be recalled. Your just part of the minority and the majority has spoken